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Post by Makes-Insides-Outside Mon Oct 24, 2011 7:33 pm

I was looking for a way to taunt an opponent and gain their exclusive enmity in a combat situation. I was wondering if a use of a social challenge and the intimidate ability would achieve this effect?

For Example:

There is a rampaging Athro BSD who will likely strike a deathblow against my packmate next round, on my turn I attempt to taunt him onto my self by using a social challenge and the intimidate ability.
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Post by ST Jonah Mon Oct 24, 2011 7:36 pm

I don't believe intimidate would be an appropriate retest for something like that. Sorry.
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Post by Makes-Insides-Outside Mon Oct 24, 2011 7:39 pm

Good to know. Thanks for the prompt answer.

I like to use abilities other than as retests for rock paper scissors, so is their another ability that you could suggest to achieve this desired effect? Or even a gift if you think a magical effect is necessary to gain the ire of an enemy in combat?

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Post by Anselm Walker Mon Oct 24, 2011 7:46 pm

Stinging Blows.

Basic CoG gift.
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Post by ST Jonah Mon Oct 24, 2011 7:58 pm

What Chris said. I like the creative aspect in what you're thinking, however I do not see it being 100% consistent unless the ability write up in the book specifies that it is capable of doing such.
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Post by Makes-Insides-Outside Mon Oct 24, 2011 8:09 pm

pg.82 LOTW Revised

"Intimidation represents any of a broad variety of techniques for terrifying people into compliance. This could be anything from physical size, to a toothy grin in your Crinos form, to knowing which emotional buttons to push.
You can use Intimidation when trying to scare someone with a Social Challenge, with certain Gifts, or in retests where the Delirium would have an effect."


So yeah vague as usual, doesn't really give a concrete mechanical effect for what being scared does. This makes me a sad panda.

Thanks for the suggestion Chris.

My quest for using abilities as abilities instead of retest pools continues!!!!!

/rides off into the sunset
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Post by Speaker Mon Oct 24, 2011 8:18 pm

Performance (Mocking) might do the trick.

Intimidation, to me, would not make me want to go after someone. It'd make me want to hit someone else or run away.
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Post by Griffin Defoe Mon Oct 24, 2011 8:19 pm

Song of Rage (Intermediate Galliard Gift) also drives a target into a frenzy, and I suppose if accompanied by a proud display it should make yourself the target. Eyes of the Cobra (also Intermediate Galliard Gift, as well as an Intermediate Children of Gaia Gift) ) makes a target come to you, which could definitely pull them off your friend long enough for you to get your hands on the foe.

Vampire: The Masquerade, a la Laws of the Night, allows for a non-mystical Social Challenge to prompt a frenzy challenge from the target if they lose. It's intended to be used on a vampire to stoke his Beast into action. Would the STs allow such a thing to be used to provoke the Rage of a Garou? The benefit of the Gift above will remain since an actual test for frenzy isn't needed following the required Social Challenge (kind of like Animalism: Drawing Out the Beast balances, in my opinion). Or is the equivalent of this actually in Laws of the Wild somewhere? (That'd be cool.)
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